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Karua answers tough questions in Dallas in run up to 2012

Posted by Administrator on March 8, 2010

Former Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Martha Karua addressing a Town Hall meeting in Dallas, TX. Photo by Antony Karanja/jambonewspot.com

Former Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister Martha Karua addressing a Town Hall meeting in Dallas, TX. Photo by Antony Karanja/jambonewspot.com

By ANTONY KARANJA in DALLAS, TEXAS
 
Former Justice and Constitutional Affairs Minister, Martha Karua faced heavy questioning during a town hall meeting held on Sunday in Dallas, Texas on the drama that erupted during the 2007 general elections in Kenya.
 
The MP for Gichugu who is currently on a tour of the US, fielded questions from attendees of  the event organized by Kenyans for Change who sought to know “who really won” in the disputed elections and what her role was in having President Kibaki declared as the winner.
 
Some participants took issue with the fact that Mrs Karua was present in the hall when the seemingly insurmountable lead held by Raila Odinga over his rival President Kibaki “suddenly” evaporated.
 
The former Minister was reminded of the popular footage from the KICC of an argument between her and Mr. William Ruto who was acting on behalf of Mr Odinga.
 
Mrs Karua defended herself by emphatically reminding the questioners that the results can only declared by the Kenya Electoral Commissioner and she only acted as an agent for President Kibaki.
 
“Mr Kivuitu declared the results and not me,” Karua said. “He declared the results after receiving the remaining votes from the Mt Kenya region which were not in and which subsequently wiped out Odinga’s lead.
 
She continued to defend herself by saying that she was only against announcing of the results before the total tally was in as she felt that a substantial number of votes were cast in the Mt Kenyan region and they would alter the dynamics of the race once they were received.
 
Answering another question from one of the town hall moderators, Ms Susan Kariuki of the East Africa in Focus, she defended herself against accusations that she abandoned Kenyans at a time of need when she quit government.
 
Karua asserted that she did not abandon the country by resigning but was rejecting how things were being run by the two principals, Raila and Kibaki.
 
“I was not happy with the way things were being done and I was not prepared to live a lie,” Karua responded. “If you can all remember the measures we discussed before Kofi Annan who came to mediate during the post elections violence were never implemented though I kept pushing for them,”
 
She reminded the attendees that Kenya was supposed to have a tribunal to look into the perpetrators of the post elections violence but that never came to pass.
 
“This was simply disregarded,” she said. “The body language of the two principals simply said they didn’t care even after urging them to support the recommendations put forth before Kofi Annan and there was no way I could work in such conditions.”
 
Dismissing infotrack Poll
 
When asked about the infotrack poll appearing in the Kenyan newspapers over the weekend that showed that only 9% of Kenyan women trust political leadership of a female, Karua said those statistics do not add up and that she does not put stock on such polls.
 
The poll showed that women trusted Prime Minister Odinga more than Ms. Karua though in totality, 53% of the respondents would vote for a female presidential candidate.
 
“I do not trust such polls,” Karua responded. “I will not worry about those statistics until I see the questions posed to the respondents. People manipulate polls you know.”
 
She reminded participants that she has always been a woman and has run for political office before and people trusted her enough to elect her.
 
She said that her political detractors often point to the fact that she is a woman and this was not something new.
 
She declared that in spite of such tactics, “the race is on” and she will not be cowed.
 
Corruption Cartels
 
On the issue of corruption, Mrs Karua also pointed out that some of the problems that Kenya is facing are being brought about by corruption cartels that are presently in the country.
 
She said that these cartels finance Kenyan elections and that it becomes very difficult to prosecute the same people who fund the politicians and hence corruption takes hold and makes it difficult to eradicate it.
 
She promised that her party Narc-Kenya will not accept campaign funding from these cartels and that they would raise money from the grassroots.
 
Whereas she came to Dallas to articulate what she was going to do for Kenyans if she is elected President in 2012, Karua spent most of her time on the ropes defending her record as the town hall participants bombarded her with questions pertaining to her short stint in the government.
 
An unfazed Karua was adamant that she had advocated for the necessary reforms to the best of her abilities and that there was only so much she could have done.
 
She reminded Kenyans who sought to know why she did not push for the prosecution of the perpetrators of the post elections violence that the Justice and Constitution Minister does not prosecute but rather acts as a government adviser.
 
She also said that she did vehemently defend the government policies that she agreed with but also opposed and spoke out against those she did not agree with.
 
She pointed to reforms that she had initiated in the Ministry of Water department as a clear indication of what she can do in other areas of government.
 
The Grand Confusion
 
Turning to the current coalition, the former Minister referred to it as a “grand confusion” and also at an earlier luncheon as “grand corruption”
 
She said that the current government has done nothing to weed out corruption and that it had created distractions hence frustrating efforts to prosecute those who engage in corruption.
 
She accused Prime Minister Raila Odinga of scuttling the focus on the Maize scandal by announcing the suspension of two ministers in the heat of the debate.
 
“He knew only the President could suspend the two ministers but decided to do this to cause a tactical distraction from the maize scandal,” Karua pointed out. “Now we are no longer talking about the scandal.”
 
On an earlier joint interview with the Dallas media houses Truthsayer Talkshow and Jambonewspot.com, Mrs Karua said that as President, she will revisit earlier corruption scandals that have never been prosecuted.
 
She insisted that retaining Attorney General Amos Wako has not helped in solving these cases and it is not practical for Kenyans to do the same old thing and expect a different result.
 
“Mr. Wako is tainted and nothing much can be expected from him,” she said. “He has been in the position for too long.”
 
Karua did not spare the media. She lamented the fact that the media has not been adequately highlighting the scandals that have involved government officers.
 
She lamented the short focus by the media on serious issues affecting Kenyans and that lack of coverage usually buries the issues.
 
Karua said the media can help Kenyans by staying focused on contentious issues and not letting the politicians get away and by putting pressure on government officers to take responsibility for their actions.
 
The aspiring Presidential candidate also urged the Kenyan public to put sustained pressure on the government for reforms saying that lack of pressure from the public has given leeway for politicians to act as they wish as the publics gets easily distracted.
 
During the meeting, the presidential aspirant adopted a populist tone and promised that she would always fight for the ordinary Kenyan.
 
She lamented the fact that the government was able to drive away the poor from Mau catchments but has not been able to do the same with the rich.
 
Karua also decried the fact that able professionals are out of work in Kenya whereas foreigners are taking up professional jobs in Kenya as part of conditions imposed contracts on foreign aid.
 
Highlighting how foreign aid works, she described it as “a bubble” as it comes attached with so many strings.
 
She said that most of the aid received from foreign governments ends up back in those government’s hands as they send along their workers instead of seeking local employment.
 
She noted that Kenya has enough resources to sustain itself but lack of proper governance and rule of law has set the Kenya backwards and hindered the country from taking advantage of its vast resources.
 
Karua is also scheduled to speak at Harvard Law School in Massachusetts on Monday.

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9 Responses to “Karua answers tough questions in Dallas in run up to 2012”

  1. otieno aduma said

    Let Karua stick to the truth, for the truth shall set her free. The maize scandal was used by PNU only after Raila suspended the ministers!!!

  2. otieno aduma said

    If power sharing per the accord is/was 50:50, then none of the principals should be able to suspend anyone without consulting the other. It seems like this accord allows Kibaki to act unilaterally whereas Raila has to consult!! That is not a true-power sharing deal!! Also can madam Karua read to us that part of the accord that allows Kibaki to act without consultation!! The accord overides the current laws!! It is also interesting to note that Kibaki wasn’t going to do anything about corruption until Raila acted by suspending the ministers and the Ps’s – at least that made kibaki do something!! Now he knows to do something or else someone with the same powers (read Raila) will act!!!
    Anyway, we do not need kibakis, karuas or Railas in the next govt 2012; as kenyans we need to elect new, young and energetic people to lead; people with new ideas and agendas, not the old tired ones of the current politicians!! Let us try a young Kenyan from the diaspora for President; let us agree to elect young people – the youth – they always say that we are the leaders of tomorrow, but they never give us a chance!! When will this “tomorrow” ever come? I say it is now and today!!! Kenyans, forget the current politicians – let us clean parliament in 2012!!!

  3. Tembiable said

    Why are Kenyans so deluded by this racist,tribalist,mungiki supporter?
    By the way,is Kenya a Kikuyu only country?If not,then why are they the ones with opportunties?
    Education standard is well maintained in the central province,resourses for schools are invariably available,virtually all jobs are given to the kikuyus.
    What about other tribes?This is unfair and not to mention disgraceful.

    • SpeakEZ said

      Tembiable,

      That is the “spitfire” that was used against Kikuyu’s in the 2007 elections and it seems to have oooozed into you veins. As a Kikuyu, I have NEVER benefited from having Kenyatta or Kibaki in the government. That is an elite class of people who have never minded the plight of the regular mwananchi. Standing in line for my son’s birth certificate at Sheria House last week, I was very delighted by a group of people -Luo’s, Kikuyus, Kambas and Kalenjins was my guess-declaring that they all plan to vote for Raila next time around. I would never for him but because of his shifting allegiances. However, I was happy to hear that the common mwananchi is realizing that tribal allegiances never benefited anyone but the politicians. Have you really driven through parts of Central Province and noticed the poverty in certain areas? Also, which tribe do most of the IDPs come from despite having “their own” in State House? Please, get out of your tribal cocoon thinking and see the broader picture

    • Murani said

      Would you be kind enough to explain why there are more Kikuyus in jail? Would you be able to explain why there are more Kikuyus lying in mortuaries (dead) around the country? Karua is a grand warrior in the grand war against graft and it does not matter to which tribe she belongs. So, why did she dump her own Kikuyus? Or you wanted her to cross over to your side?

      • SpeakEZ said

        I did not know that the statistics on deaths and prisoners are available by tribe. How did you find that out anyway? Exactly what is your point? Please please please, point blame rightyfully to poor governance, Kikuyu or otherwise. Kenyatta ruled for 15 years, Moi 24 years and Kibaki 7 years. Who has had more time to loot national coffers for the benefit of his community? I have seen many suffering Kalenjins despite years of Moi rule. You may want to put your energies in improving your life rather than quoting unsubstantiated statistics.

    • Murani said

      “I have seen many suffering Kalenjins despite years of Moi rule.”
      SpeakEZ, you have answered your own question. That was my point!!! Same applies to Kikuyus. Despite having had Jomo and now Mwai, as the leader of the nation, a large number of them do not even do not earn Shs.100 a day. This number on a pro rata basis could be the highest in the country. I do not hear you complain. On the other side of the spectrum, they have more of their kin at the top – just as they have more of them at the bottom. Smell the coffee and pray that Kenya is governed the way God would want it governed. Do not blame hapless Kikuyus if Mwai misbehaves.

  4. Mwai Kibs said

    This seems a good coverage of Karua’s answers to the questions she fielded. It disgusts me, however, to see and hear Tembiable peddling what he knows or should know by now to be utter lies, singing an old foolish song of “Kikuyu’s getting virtually all the jobs, schools, money, development, etc.” In 2007, it was even said that all Kikuyus get a regular govt stipend channeled through Equity Bank, and many others. What resulted? Ugly, ugly, ugly. what we don’t want to see repeated.
    I am sitted in an office right now with people from Luo, Kikuyu, Borana, Kalenjin, Kamba and even a mzungu. and we do this every day as we do what we do, without that kind of gibberish. These jobs aren’t gov’t-handed at all. Tembiable, your bitterness may be channelled more positively. And since you are expressing your freedom of expression, you have a choise to do that responsibly.

    • SpeakEZ said

      Mwai Kibs, very well said. Two of my closest friends over the years have been Luos. During a recent family illness, they came out to my aid more than my own Kikuyu family and friends. I would like to think I have been there for them over the years too. It is called been human. Maybe Tembiable is dealing with his own shortcomings and the easiest scapegoat is the Kikuyus.I agree with Mwai Kibs that Tembiable needs to channel his energy more responsively.

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